Re: Follow on from 'doctype question'

by Lori Eldridge <lorield(at)uswest.net>
Date:	Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:29:03 -0700
To:	hwg-basics(at)hwg.org
References:	canopy
	todo: View Thread, Original
Hi Fuzzy and all,

Thanks for the new and improved DTD. It has been a while since I 
checked those out and was using the 4.0 instead of the 4.01.

Question: Do we have to leave the link to W3.org in our doc 
statements? Every time I do that the page trys to load when I'm 
working on it off line--very annoying.  I use Netscape--I know it's 
supposedly a pain but I HATE IE for a multitude of reasons--all of 
which NN provides--and mostly because it doesn't provide "send page" 
which I use all the time to send myself copies of the text off the 
sites for research purposes.

Lori

>Charles,
>
>WOW. You're right about those two elements!!
>
>Please note however, that the DTD *is* required.
>
>For those who find reference links a pain <grin> allow me to quote:
>
>"7.2 HTML version information
>A valid HTML document declares what version of HTML is used in the
>document. The document type declaration names the document type definition
>(DTD) in use for the document (see [ISO8879]).
>
>HTML 4.01 specifies three DTDs, so authors must include one of the
>following document type declarations in their documents. The DTDs vary in
>the elements they support.
>
>The HTML 4.01 Strict DTD includes all elements and attributes that have not
>been deprecated or do not appear in frameset documents. For documents that
>use this DTD, use this document type declaration: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC
>"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
>         "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>
>The HTML 4.01 Transitional DTD includes everything in the strict DTD plus
>deprecated elements and attributes (most of which concern visual
>presentation). For documents that use this DTD, use this document type
>declaration: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
>         "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
>
>The HTML 4.01 Frameset DTD includes everything in the transitional DTD plus
>frames as well. For documents that use this DTD, use this document type
>declaration: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"
>         "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">
>"
>
>HTH,
>Fuzzy.
>
>P.S. To read more please visit:
>http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.4   {sorry Ted, I
>couldn't resist}
>
>
>At 12:03 AM 9/29/00 -0400, Charles A Upsdell wrote:
>>If you check the HTML 4 spec you will find that the HTML and HEAD tags are
>>defined as being OPTIONAL.  So, if Netscape or Opera cannot load a page in
>>which they are omitted, they are at fault.  Though, of course, attributing
>>'fault' is pointless to those who need to create websites for real-world
>>browsers.
>__________________________________________________________________
>Captain F.M. O'Lary
>webmaster(at)canopy.net
>FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION.  It comes bundled with the software.
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